Meet Erin, a Bay Space city farmer and astrologist who sees Bitcoin and homesteading as community-focused methods of changing into self-sufficient.
On this version of the “Bitcoin Homesteaders Interview Collection,” I spoke with Erin, who constructed an city farm within the yard of her rented residence within the San Francisco Bay Space.
I initially met Erin at a Bay Space Bitcoin Meetup and was struck by her broad pursuits — from astronomy and astrology to Bitcoin and doomsday prepping. When not tending to her farm, she’s engaged on a PhD in Earth and planetary science and working a podcast known as “Hell Cash” with Casey Rodarmor (the Ordinals man).
She’s additionally reaching youngsters along with her adventures into city farming through TikTok — so observe her there in case you’d prefer to study extra about how she produces abundance out of her yard.
Erin and I talked about how she acquired her begin with homesteading by likelihood, the distinctive challenges and benefits of city farming, paying it ahead, the longer term for San Francisco and the astrology of Bitcoin. I hope you get pleasure from!
Sidd: Thanks for becoming a member of me, Erin! Simply to kick off, are you able to inform me a bit about the way you began homesteading and the place you’re at now?
Erin: Positive. So, I began homesteading sort of accidentally. I moved out to the Bay Space about 4 and a half years in the past. And when my boyfriend and I had been looking for a spot to stay, we had been simply wanting on Craigslist for a spot with a yard. We knew we wished to do some gardening, however we didn’t have huge plans.
We got here throughout a Craigslist advert with no photos — it was possibly two sentences lengthy saying mainly, “Hey, I want a sublet for six months. In case you are prepared to feed the chickens, I’ll offer you low-cost hire.” We responded to it, although we thought it could be pretend. But when it occurred to be actual, we thought it could be a great place for us.
We came upon the one that posted the advert was Novella Carpenter, who’s virtually an area Bay Space celeb. She’s an city homesteader who wrote a e book known as “Farm Metropolis” in 2009. It was a memoir of her life in Oakland the place she began squat gardening on an empty lot subsequent to her home. After she gardened for an extended whereas, somebody lastly confirmed up and informed her it was their lot — however they supplied to promote it to Novella.
She purchased it and constructed out a whole city farm that’s known as Ghost City Farm. She emailed us from her private e-mail whereas we had been going forwards and backwards in regards to the itemizing, so we came upon who she was. So, the itemizing appeared actual to us after that, and since she didn’t ask for any cost forward of time we figured it wasn’t a lot of a danger.
We drove throughout the nation in a U-Haul and confirmed up with out seeing a single image of the residence. We simply resolved to stay there regardless. It felt like a synchronicity, a stupendous factor to be welcomed into.
That six-month sublet ended up turning right into a yr dwelling at Ghost City Farm. Nonetheless, she ended up leaving after that yr, since she solely owned the lot subsequent door and never the home she was dwelling in. When she left, she requested us if we wished to take the chickens. We agreed and located one other six-month sublet that was prepared to have our chickens within the yard. We stuffed a U-Haul filled with fruit timber in trash cans, cuttings in planters and eight chickens.
We moved in a month earlier than COVID.
As soon as we settled into the brand new place, we discovered that we acquired together with the owner and felt comfy being there extra completely. That allowed us to extra deliberately design our backyard. Then COVID hit, which really labored out completely for us as a result of we had been dwelling all day, day by day. We spent the primary three months simply working within the yard and setting all the things up. The yard itself is lower than 1 / 4 acre. It’s not an enormous yard. However we’ve sort of been in a position to determine a scenario with some raised beds, some stuff within the floor, after which the chickens.
Humorous sufficient, a lot of the yard once we moved in was really concrete. The man who owned the home earlier than our landlord was a concrete layer who would take a look at out new mixes in his yard. So, there’s concrete about 16 inches deep in our yard.
We thought we’d take the concrete out, however that was far too troublesome. As a substitute, we contacted native arborists — people who lower down timber — and we acquired three large a great deal of mulch. We coated all the yard in mulch and simply began planting on prime of the concrete and mulch.
Tip: Arborists gives you free mulch everytime you’re in a position to take it, as a result of they only have to eliminate it.
From an city soil perspective, loading mulch on that concrete is definitely an ideal factor to have the ability to do since you don’t actually know what’s within the soil in an city surroundings. Even when one thing’s not close to a present-day construction, the chances that somebody had a bizarre shed or no matter with lead paint on it, for instance, aren’t zero. Except you actually go foot by foot and take a look at the soil in your yard, you gained’t know what you’re rising in. It’s an enormous downside for city homesteading. So, beginning contemporary on prime of concrete and constructing new soil really eradicated a number of potential points.
We’ve been right here for 2 and a half years, so we’ve seen a few seasons right here now. That’s the story to date.
Sidd: And what’s your private background? What else are you doing exterior of homesteading and the way did you uncover Bitcoin?
Erin: Effectively, I’m initially from Pennsylvania, and that’s the place I lived till we moved out right here. I moved to the Bay Space to begin a PhD program in Earth and planetary science at UC Berkeley. I’m presently within the PhD program, and that’s what I do for cash.
I fell in love with Bitcoin once we had been dwelling at Ghost City Farm initially. That was the primary time I ever purchased bitcoin as properly. So, beginning homesteading and stepping into Bitcoin had been on the same timeline for me.
Outdoors of that, I even have a podcast known as “Hell Cash.” I do a number of astrology stuff as properly, which we will get into later.
Sidd: What are you producing proper now in your homestead?
Erin: So, we now have orange and lemon timber, a few of that are nonetheless in trash cans, and a few of that are within the floor. Placing timber within the floor is a fairly everlasting factor to do as a renter. We’ve tried to place issues within the floor that aren’t going to be an enormous potential downside once we transfer out some day.
Then we now have 13 chickens in a single space producing eggs. Though, I’ll say, even in Northern California winters, they don’t produce very a lot until you will have a warmth lamp. We get a number of eggs — sufficient for the 2 of us — after which some additional throughout the spring, summer time and fall.
We’ve got two areas by way of rising. There’s a perennial permaculture space that’s largely herbs and crops that simply keep within the floor and produce a brand new harvest after they’re prepared. Then we now have two raised beds that we use for crops that we harvest on an annual foundation and that we rotate.
Proper now, the beds are empty. We’re simply getting issues began for subsequent yr. It’s our fourth summer time dwelling on this home, so we’re attending to the purpose the place we now have to actually care about soil well being for annual crop rotation. While you backyard within the first yr or so, in case your soil is in fine condition, all the things’s nice. After that, in case you’re not fascinated with the right way to fertilize issues and be sure that your soil is properly balanced, it could actually begin to go dangerous.
We’re centered on getting soil assessments achieved to get a way for our soil well being, so we will preserve that into this yr. We even have worm composting, which I like to recommend to anybody who even has identical to a tiny yard.
Worm composting is mainly a system of Tupperware-like giant bins which have grates on the backside. Stack 4 or 5 of them on prime of one another with smaller and smaller grates as you go down the stack. Put your compost within the prime bin and add worms. The worms eat your compost and because it breaks down, compost falls to the decrease ranges and the worms unfold out. You produce nice fertilizer so rapidly in a really space-efficient approach. The underside container will get crammed with black gold.
Sidd: So, in these first three months, was it full-time be just right for you and your boyfriend to construct beds, lay mulch and plant all the things? What was the method of getting it began while you correctly kicked off?
Erin: I’d say it was a full-time weekend job for 2 to 3 months. We each work full-time jobs throughout the week, however we had been working from dwelling. That helped with a couple of duties, like tending to new chicks. It’s actually arduous to have a nine-to-five workplace job and lift chicks. You want to have the ability to do quarter-hour of upkeep or checkup throughout the day — that makes an enormous distinction. So, a distant job the place you’re working from dwelling is ideal.
Fortuitously, it was additionally a very nice solution to see associates at the moment. Within the early days of COVID, folks had been not likely leaving the home or doing something. So, folks had been keen even to return over and transfer mulch round for 4 hours. That meant we acquired a number of assist.
I feel dwelling in an city surroundings, so many individuals don’t have entry to nature or the enjoyment of cultivating one thing. It’s very satisfying work. So, even when we now have huge duties which can be lots for simply two folks to do, we’re often capable of finding some associates that prefer to make a cute sort of cottage day trip of it.
Sidd: How did you discover ways to arrange and run your homestead?
Erin: Quite a lot of it was Novella, initially, since we lived on her farm which was at that time about 15 years previous. She was our greatest mentor. After we took cuttings from her crops, we had been already accustomed to how they behave in the event that they’re doing properly or not.
I didn’t develop up doing this, and neither did my boyfriend. Our experiences with Novella and the web acquired us right here. We do have a ton of homesteader books, however I haven’t cracked open most of them as a result of any query I’ve I can simply Google round for whereas I’m out within the backyard. There are a number of boards with folks figuring it out on-line.
I additionally discovered the free permaculture course from Heather Jo Flores very useful and satisfying as a result of it goes into the rules behind permaculture. These rules assist me to maintain asking, “What’s it I’m really making an attempt to do right here?” so I put extra thought into my designs.
Our studying path has been a mix of that preliminary mentorship, a number of Googling after which simply experimenting and willingness to fail. We’re not doing this for revenue or making an attempt to stay fully off our land which suggests we now have a giant margin for error.
Sidd: What labor is concerned now in working your backyard and the chickens?
Erin: It is dependent upon the time of yr, and since we’re doing it for enjoyable as an alternative of to outlive, it additionally is dependent upon how motivated we’re and the way a lot time we now have to dedicate. Within the spring, from February to April, is probably the most intensive time since you’re sprouting seeds and it’s a must to plant all the things. That’s the planting and sowing seed stage.
As soon as all the things is within the floor, we now have drip irrigation. We don’t have to go on the market and water day by day. The chickens have a feed factor they’ll simply step on to open to allow them to get meals. We simply need to refill that like as soon as each different week and gather eggs, which isn’t work — that’s enjoyable.
The door to the hen coop opens and closes with the solar utilizing a light-weight sensor, and the chickens are like robots — they know to go out and in of the coop. So, the extent of labor is actually as much as how a lot effort we need to be placing in. It finally ends up being a Saturday or Sunday, possibly each different week or so, changing into a delegated work day to do a little bit of upkeep.
Should you’re working from dwelling, and you’ll spare quarter-hour in a day to do no matter must be achieved exterior of a weekend day, I feel it’s straightforward to keep up one thing that’s this small. Particularly chickens.
I like to recommend chickens to everybody who has a yard. I feel they’re lots simpler than folks initially anticipate. I’m certain if we hadn’t inherited chickens, it could have been a giant resolution to get them. However now, we’re by no means going to stay with out chickens. They’re part of our life and now we all know how straightforward they’re.
Sidd: What in regards to the noise from chickens — does that ever hassle you or your neighbors?
Erin: They’re noisy, and roosters could be a lot. Nonetheless, we’re in a metropolis anyway. Most individuals are used to noise. They’re anticipating it.
The primary problem for us was discovering landlords which can be cool with them. On this space, neighbors aren’t the issue. It’s Berkeley folks, they suppose it’s cute and funky. We had one neighbor who put up a fuss about it, but it surely was as a result of he thought we had been simply yuppies that didn’t know what we had been doing. As soon as he realized we had a clue, he beloved us and loved having us as neighbors. That was a humorous type of rite-of-passage expertise.
Sidd: So, stroll me via all of the fruits, greens and herbs you might be rising.
Erin: We’ve got virtually infinite lemons and oranges yr spherical coming from two timber in trash cans and one within the floor for each of these. We even have an insanely prolific raspberry bush that produces probably the most scrumptious raspberries I’ve ever had. We randomly planted artichoke, which is perennial. It’s all the time doing tremendous properly.
After which we now have a number of herbs. These have been straightforward, particularly herbs for teas and medicinal herbs. I used to be actually into that for a sec. throughout COVID, as a result of I wished different therapeutic choices. Considered one of my favourite issues to do is a giant harvest of herbs. I hold them to dry after which experiment with totally different tea blends.
We’ve got to resolve what to plant for the summer time within the raised beds. My grandfather on my mother’s aspect was an avid tomato gardener in Pittsburgh who saved seeds each single yr. I used to be in a position to get a few of his seeds from the 2008 planting, and already acquired some to sprout and develop. I saved seeds from people who we will plant once more.
Lastly, we develop a number of weed yearly, contained in the authorized quantity in California of six crops. We’re legally rising extra weed than we might ever probably smoke. I simply give it away.
Sidd: Should you transfer, are you going to dig all the things up? Or take cuttings and begin anew?
Erin: So, we really stay in a duplex, and our new neighbors that moved in a yr in the past mentioned they selected this place partially due to all of the work we had achieved. They wished to begin gardening, so we helped them construct out two extra raised beds to plant in. Now we get to share this space with folks which can be like minded and need to domesticate with us.
So, once we lastly do transfer out sometime, relying on the dynamics of who’s dwelling upstairs, we would simply go away it for them. We might simply take cuttings of no matter we wish, mainly. Having moved a lot from sublet to sublet, I feel it’s good to depart issues higher than you discovered them. To offer the folks transferring in one thing they’re in a position to make use of and construct off is a very nice feeling to have upon transferring out of a spot.
It’s paying it ahead. If we simply moved into an empty lot, I can’t think about what we’d be doing now. We had been lucky to see different folks doing it, and there’s a number of generosity in wanting to maintain the land going the way in which that it’s reasonably than tearing all the things out and taking it with you.
Sidd: What are your ideas on the significance of genetics within the crops you’re rising?
Erin: Once I take into consideration genetics, I take into consideration biodiversity. Usually talking, I lean within the doomsday prepper path. Having a homestead is thrilling for me for the food-security facet. Our backyard hasn’t solved that downside, but it surely does give us a buffer. That alleviates what some would name “anxiousness” within the background — however I simply suppose it’s realism in regards to the state of issues.
So, once we had been organising the homestead, I used to be fixated on how there’s so little biodiversity in our meals system. So many farmers simply purchase seeds from the identical folks they usually’re genetically modified. On prime of that, lots of the hybrid seeds actually can’t be saved — they gained’t propagate on to new generations or it’s unlawful to take action.
Little or no variety in seeds makes it simpler for a illness to unfold like wildfire and wipe out a bunch of genetically-identical crops. So, I used to be fascinated by discovering varieties that had been sourced from folks making an attempt to protect biodiversity, and in addition to optimize for issues that grew properly in my microclimate. At this level, a pair years in, one of the best ways for me to do this is to save lots of seeds myself yearly. Long run, I hope I can begin a seed farm and promote seeds to be able to assist preserve biodiversity.
Sidd: Most homesteaders, I feel, are withdrawing from the world in a number of methods. Nonetheless, it appears you’re fascinated with it in a extra communal approach. Why do you suppose that’s? What position does group play in your homesteading journey?
Erin: I feel it’s a little bit of a life-style distinction given I stay in an city space. I’m not in a position to fortify and shut myself off the way in which I feel lots of people who do that type of way of life are. And at this stage of my life I don’t suppose that’s one thing that I need to do.
For instance, I really like that there’s actually one Bitcoin meetup every week, at the least in my space. I like dwelling someplace the place there’s lots happening and it’s straightforward for me to work together with folks and be part of one thing larger than myself. I’d reasonably attempt to construct up my group round me than simply survive remoted with my household.
I’m certain I acquired this from someplace, however I feel rising a backyard is among the solely particular person radical acts that you are able to do. Shopping for bitcoin might be one other one. Rising a backyard makes you extra autonomous and means that you can provide primary must folks round you. You probably have a pair ft of dust, you are able to do that. I undoubtedly went via a section the place I believed we would have liked to maneuver to the center of nowhere and fortify, however I’ve gotten previous that now.
We’re additionally lucky to stay in an space with many stable regenerative farms with community-supported agriculture (CSA) drop offs, so we now have a vegetable CSA and a meat CSA. That’s one other benefit of dwelling in a populated space — you will have entry to lots higher meals sources that may nonetheless be very native. We’ve got many choices right here from city farms to the broader Bay Space, which is why I don’t really feel such a powerful have to subsist off simply what I develop. I’d reasonably simply be part of that community personally.
Sidd: Again to Bitcoin. I seen a powerful curiosity in homesteading amongst Bitcoiners once I traveled throughout the U.S. this yr. What’s your learn on that? Is there actual curiosity in transferring again to the land and farming?
Erin: I feel it’s actual. However I feel the back-to-the-land factor is fraught. It’s the identical factor that the hippies did. I feel folks underestimate how troublesome and isolating it’s to really go away society. I imagine in my energy as part of a group sufficient that I feel I could make change, inside the space that I’m in. I don’t know that I’d really feel that approach if I lived some place else.
The Bay Space has a powerful sluggish meals motion left from the hippies within the ’60s and ’70s, and I really feel like folks listed below are extra okay with different life. There’s an urge for food for experimenting with extra decentralized, anarchist conditions, for higher or for worse. San Francisco is on the dangerous aspect of that, like, anarchy line. Like I mentioned, I feel the meals system is an issue that you may really attempt to deal with as a person or as a household, which isn’t the case for lots of political points.
In case you are that anxious in regards to the meals system, you should buy a few acres and begin a farm to be part of the answer. That goes hand in hand with the decentralized economics of Bitcoin as properly. In my eyes, decentralization is a big a part of this new motion of rising issues the correct approach and incorporating animals into your rising ethically. I don’t suppose that we will have a vegan, plant-based agricultural system — we’d like animals to be part of that. And I really like that plenty of Bitcoiners get that.
There’s additionally a parallel between Bitcoin and homesteading in programs design. You might have to have the ability to zoom out and recognize the system as a complete. In an ideal backyard, you might be organising the correct rising circumstances in order that the stuff you plant all contribute to one another and soil well being is maintained. That’s a chic system that’s really sustainable — not sustainable in a buzzwordy approach. Bitcoin and its incentive construction are equally sustainable.
Sidd: I need to get your tackle what’s occurring in San Francisco. In a current “Hell Cash” episode, you talked about how San Francisco has many wild dichotomies. For instance, you’ll be sipping a $20 cocktail in a pleasant bar with folks capturing heroin exterior and feces on the street. What’s your learn on what’s occurring in S.F.?
Erin: That’s a tricky one. There are lots of people that make some huge cash dwelling in S.F., however I feel they’re not very invested in San Francisco in the long run. Once I take into consideration the folks I do know who stay in San Francisco, they go to Tahoe to ski each weekend. As soon as they’ve youngsters, they transfer out of S.F. I feel there are extra canine than youngsters within the metropolis of San Francisco.
This can be a generalization, however I really feel a number of tech persons are nice to simply order DoorDash and hand around in their residence throughout the week, then go away on the weekends. I don’t suppose there’s the identical degree of funding in dwelling in San Francisco as someplace like Los Angeles or New York — which have excessive earnings as properly.
San Francisco folks strike me as both shut-ins or outdoorsy. In each circumstances, they’re not going out within the city and experiencing issues. I’ve nonetheless not absolutely wrapped my head across the homeless scenario or how folks clarify that to themselves. Once I go to San Francisco, it shakes me to my core. One thing must be achieved however I do not know what.
The social norm is to simply ignore it as you stroll by. That’s a horrible factor to do, however that’s all you are able to do, proper? That’s all that’s socially acceptable to do, at the least. Homelessness has develop into such an ingrained a part of the politics right here: Nobody actually is aware of the right way to remedy it, or the options are unsavory to a progressive mindset. So, the reply is simply to disregard it, and never spend time in San Francisco.
It’s fascinating that the remainder of the Bay Space doesn’t really feel like that in any respect. Oakland and Berkeley don’t really feel like that. They really feel like lived-in locations the place folks spend their complete lives, elevating youngsters and all. Oakland and Berkeley are in all probability the perfect way of life by way of what I’m on the lookout for out of life: a yard, chickens and low-key neighbors. There’s no home-owner’s affiliation to cope with. However I can take the bus to work, we will bike wherever we wish, it’s a really walkable space.
Sidd: The place do you suppose San Francisco is heading? What is going to it appear to be in 20 years?
Erin: My hope is that the tech sector ultimately peters out of the Bay Space. For tax causes, I really feel like that’s not an unlikely situation. Then I hope that San Francisco builds extra housing and it turns into extra inexpensive to stay there. It’s a stupendous metropolis with an unimaginable local weather, and that may all the time be a draw. It simply wants a reset.
Sidd: So, the very last thing I need to discuss is your curiosity in astrology. I discover it fascinating the way you discuss Bitcoin and different social change via that lens. I’m curious, why are you so fascinated by astrology?
Erin: God is aware of! It’d be actually handy if I wasn’t, actually. The extra I discovered about it, the extra my world formed round it. I began seeing issues in that framework, and it grew to become the dominant approach that I understood life.
I feel perception and religious construction are a pure a part of the human expertise. So, you’ll be able to both be self aware of it, acknowledging what you imagine and that it’s not one thing you’re going to logically justify. Or, you’ll be able to attempt to faux you don’t need to imagine something — however that simply makes you much less conscious of the road between your perception constructions and your logical mind.
It’s arduous for me to think about how I’d make sense of something with out astrology. I by no means stopped eager to study astrology, and I all the time discover new methods to know the world with it. Nonetheless, I additionally think about myself a science individual that enjoys considering logically. I simply consider them as being totally different instruments in a software belt. Each have their limitations. However once more, in case you don’t have the religious understanding, I feel you’ll fill it with one thing else. That may very well be an ideology or a type of spiritual interpretation of science, however you’re going to create a perception construction even in case you suppose you don’t imagine in something.
Sidd: You’ve talked about the astrological age of Aquarius many occasions in podcasts: What’s that and what does it say about all the things we’ve talked about?
Erin: So, the age of Aquarius is an astrological age. Astrological ages are decided by the precession of the equinoxes of the Earth. Over a interval of 1000’s of years, the Earth wobbles on its axis. This implies the equinox factors in a distinct path over time, into totally different constellations. The equinox factors towards every signal for roughly 2,000 years.
So, we’ve been within the age of Pisces for the final 2,000 years, and we’re transitioning out of it now. Jesus is usually regarded as a really quintessential Pisces power, as a result of Pisces is all about spirituality and dissolving the self into the opposite. I really feel like faith because the opiate of the plenty is a really age of Pisces sort of power.
The final 2,000 years have been so dominated by the most important monotheistic religions, with the way in which folks decide what’s good, what’s beneficial, what’s authorized even, all derives from these monotheistic constructions. Even the Gregorian calendar we use at the moment began 2,000 years in the past, with the daybreak of the age of Pisces. Monotheistic faith is such an enormous a part of the framework at the moment; of the soup that we’re dwelling in.
Now we’re transitioning into the age of Aquarius. When the age really begins is extremely debated, however I’ve heard lots of people say the yr 2000 and even the yr 2140, unrelated to Bitcoin. In any case, the age of Aquarius is marked by themes like decentralization and expressing individuality whereas nonetheless being a part of a collective.
The web involves thoughts with age of Aquarius vibes. I additionally suppose the transition to the knowledge age and the dissolution of the hierarchical construction we had earlier than are huge themes. There are all these totally different sorts of decentralized methods of figuring out what’s beneficial and true, like Bitcoin, however they’re additionally so chaotic proper now. That’s age of Aquarius power.
My Bitcoin journey is definitely tied to astrology as properly. I wasn’t following it carefully, however I used to be shopping for small quantities as a doomsday prep of types as a buffer in opposition to an economic system that appeared pretend. Then, on the finish of 2020, there was a conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter in Aquarius. I felt like all this Aquarius power would are available, filling the void left from COVID.
The day of the conjunction, as we had been driving out to the seashore, I checked out my telephone and realized bitcoin was again as much as $18,000. That felt like age of Aquarius power. Throughout 2021, bitcoin’s worth adopted the developments of Jupiter carefully. So, seeing all these Aquarius transits occur with Bitcoin, I resolved to study extra about it. I discovered an in-depth article in regards to the astrology of Bitcoin and it simply clicked for me. This and the web are how we will dissolve this corrupt, top-down monetary system that everybody is aware of is damaged.
Sidd: One final query: Is there an astrological clarification for the current bitcoin run up?
Erin: So, this weekend I’m assembly up with some Bitcoin astrologers. In fact, this isn’t an astrologically-random time: we’re assembly up for the brand new moon in Aquarius. So, at the moment is Tuesday the seventeenth of January, and there’s a brand new moon in Aquarius on Saturday the twenty first. The brand new moon can be in the identical space that Pluto will go into between March and June this yr. So, I feel this can be a sneak peek into what Pluto in Aquarius will deliver. After Pluto leaves Aquarius this yr, it’s going to re-enter in 2024 and keep till 2044.
So, we’re getting a little bit blip of what that new power coming in could be.
Sidd: Thanks for sharing your ideas, Erin!
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